"Pre-retcon" just means. canon) Beyonder, because again: "pre-retcon. Beyonder was an incredibly powerful alien entity from Marvel comics who would becoming a recurring antagonist for several story-arcs, he was considered to be the single most dangerous threat the collective Marvel multiverse had ever faced and was compared numerous times to a Supreme Being whose power so greatly eclipsed those found in. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. 2. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is ery powerful, but not powerful enough to beat the one above all. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. But beyonder that isn’t pr gets absorbed. Mxy is done. But it wont be easy by no means. post retcon toaa: his power can only work on a multiverse that is stable. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is far. Not only that he struggled heavily against madrakk and trust me Beyounder is infinty stronger than Mandrakk. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. Beyonder was everything outisde the Multi-verse. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2. 2. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. New comments cannot be posted. Pre-retcon Beyonder is the be all-end all of ALL comicbook characters. 3. He may have to resort to starving them out by erasing humanity though. Random encounter. Thanos wins them all unless its Thanos vs OAA. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. PRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Beyonder stomp beyond comprehension. Wiki Points. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Kingant27. Post-Retcon Beyonder: A cosmic cube being that had split in half, the other side being Molecule Man. Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. Some stuff from DC like Lucifer Morningstar. the_doctor. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. The Forger is much stronger than Barbatos. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Who Is Strongest || Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Hajun#whoisstrongest#shorts#marvel#marvelcomics#marvelstudios#dc#dccomics#dceu#lucifer#beyonder#viralshorts#anime#. " lord marvel is said to be omnipotent and he can get smacked up. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. #. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. A few pages leter Beyonder comes back kills Doom and starts curb stomping everyone including wrecking the mutli verse and breaking apart countless realities That's what Pre Retcon Beyonder is A. Lucifer obviously wins, the guy literally has half of God's omnipotence. Aka via ap advantage Oblivion alone has Infinite Spatial Dimensions and is described as a realm which contains all Change and Variation within it. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. "No other force or power in existence could. All indications are that. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. #2 Stalin-Is-Steel. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. icecream1991. 0. panos2000000 • 1 yr. Beyonder was an alien entity from Marvel comics who was a multiversal threat and a hero. Sign in to edit View history Talk (0) List of all notable quotes by or about Beyonder (Earth-616). the_doctor. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. The Beyonder has been retconned. If not, Team 2 with some trouble, since PRB<HOTU. Lucifer is a different beast. Michael Demiurgos >> Pre-Retcon Beyonder >>>>> Battler. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. No Prep. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. Yeah Mxy is tough as shit, and probably wont go down. Jan 22, 2017. Been done here on the vine. Shinra destroys their narrative 68%. Round 2 is just silly, because neither of those characters would be ANY help to Superman, much less to Beyonder. Conceptual Warping Tier C vs Particle Manipulating Tier B. Beyonder at first during SW2 didnt even have a concept of life or death for a while and was even manipulated by normal people, by the end of SW2 he was more knowledgeable but to the basic comrepehension of stuff, Lucy on the other hand is one of the most cunning people in DC and with his power combined he should think of a way to beat PRB other. #38 JayBlack. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. Forum Posts. The Tree of Knowledge alone contains infinite multiverses and aleph infinities and The Scarlet King could effortlessly destroy it. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on into infinity. Jim Shooter who was the editor at Marvel at the time said so and the Beyonder himself said so. Round 5: All-Mighty vs The entire Marvel verse. A common misconception about HoTU is that it's omnipotent or a fraction of TOAA's power, multiversal and some stuff of the like, the only indicator for this is that thanos absorbed LT during his fight, in terms of power, HoTU isn't a lot more impressive than the IG for an example. vs. Victory by permanent death or erasure. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. 43. 1. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. User Lists: 20 Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. But i think they have more "battle feats" (killed LT, killed millions/billions/or much more than that, of celestials (since they killed all of then from all multiverse). Some overkill ones would be The Brothers Death (apart from maybe small death), Scarlet King, etc. [deleted] • 8 yr. 2. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. HOM wanda. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. R1: Everyone of the verses is at their peak. K. Dec 24, 2015. Living Tribunal >>>>>Pre-Retcon Beyonder>>>>>White crown phoenix "and yet Phoenix Rachel shocked the Beyonder. The Beyonder is bloodlusted. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. I really can't be asked to go. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Pre-retcon: The universe was his plaything. PRE-RETCON BEYONDER? All of them are BLOODLUSTED! TOAA is the special referee! DB universe characters start at their maximum power and are already at their most powerful form! 14 years ago. Tons of awesome Beyonder wallpapers to download for free. A single PR Beyonder was enough to solo all the Celestials by himself . 140. As PRB is an embodiment of Infinite Dimensions + Beyonder Realm in totality, and there is no evidence that Demonbaneverse is. She surpasses him in raw power by far. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. destinyman75. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. No prep. Beyonder on the other hand, flip-flops back and forth as to how powerful he really is because of the inconsistent showings of entities that he has fought and the inconsistency of Beyonder's own showings with his own statements for instance: Beyonder was stated to be Million X Infinity the size of a Multiverse but this is mathematically. 5 years ago. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only appeared in a few issues of Fantastic Four as far as I know, it's hard to tell. so the Doomslayer stomps. So, it is the power of pre-retcon Beyonder. Gan and Crimson King are basically super-amped versions of P. And post retcon… well Peter Parker had his power for one billionth of a second a rewrote all of reality. 1. A Pre-Retcon Beyonder is beyond the Galaxy, beyond Dimensions, beyond the Multi Verse and should easily stomp the absolute shit out of whatever pseudo intellectual Neil Gaiman fake mystic mumbo. Third, Mxy would be erased of existence by. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. No prep and no knowledge. And yeah he stomps. 7. #1 Omega48. This is PRE-Retcon Beyonder, you know, before LT could do shit to him and pulled out that asswipe explanation. Franklin Richards(full control of his powers) All the celestials. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and destroy reality, in Marvel Comics. Prime Brock Lesnar, Prime Mike Tyson, A Neanderthal Male,Prime Andre the Giant, A. Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. 0. Biography: The man, the myth, the legend. While Bruce may have had god's full power (and I doubt that he did) he lacks the intelligence to use it, even Mxy does more. But it turns out. Additional comment actions. Pre Retcon Beyonder VS Azathoth 179 results 1 2 3 4 #1 Edited By deactivated-5fb6c77c8d900 I see alot of extrenely OP character being pitted against. )Pre-Retcon Beyonder is too much for John Constantine to handle. Then the pre retcon beyonder attacks himself. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Tdk banished the Great Darkness from Barbatos, and took over the Dark multiverse, Barbatos is just a small avatar of the Great Darkness. R1 - Cosmic Cube post retcon Beyonder faces the 5, he can call for his Molecule man version if hes stomped. First is the. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (as in, during Secret Wars II) was more powerful than the in-universe hand of the author. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. He is the central antagonist of the Battleworld arc in Season 4: Secret Wars. User Lists: 0We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Doom, when has anything even close to that happened to the Tribunal? My point is Marvel states he is the one thing/person/entity that. Pre-Retcon Beyonder Vs. ". About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. -Both at 1-A -I wonder which Beyonders are stronger now since the The Beyonders recently got upgraded into 1-A. 7. Follow 23035. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. 4 years ago. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. 3. 8 years ago. but the other writers ruined and screwed up these characters. Trying to apply that to the Beyonder is meaningless, he may as well embody all of them considering his origin. Ima go with byonder. The Crimson King Edit: Different sizes of infinity. 13 years agoWasn't Pre-Retcon Beyonder just a child unit of Beyonder race? He was shown that way in Deadpool's Secret Wars. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. The Beyonder was also stated to be "Beyond the Marvel Multiverse/Omniverse" which means that, he was beyond "Infinite-Dimensions" or "Trans-Infinity". Originally posted by Endless Mike Not as powerful as Squirrel Girl Isn't SG like tied with TOAA in power or something? She stomps all of fiction at the same time, and does it repeatedly over and over again. He was the single most dangerous threat the Marvel multiverse had ever faced, until he was retconned into a more limited character with varied origins. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Galactus is fodder here. 14 years ago. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Forum Posts. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. 14 years ago. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. VS. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. In the pocket dimension, classic doctor strange would do exactly what he did. Wiki Points. Specificity of the Beyonder is that everything he thinks is real, and. Yeah. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. Dreamxd26. 9 years ago. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. cpg357 • 4 yr. Beyonder stomps. "Now now thats not true. He has way better feats, unless you can provide me a showing for Reinhard superior to being beyond comprehension of Pre-Retcon MM, as well as being above all of Marvel. Battles. Hajun via feats and implied power. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. I realize that this doesn't exactly answer your question. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. There's no feats indicating that the Pre-Retcon Beyonder would be able to get through the Doomslayer's armor. Protege and Pre-Retcon Beyonder 49%. who universe. 103. TOAA wins either way though. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. " Yep this is a pretty easy win for Frank 14 years ago. He was the TOAA of own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse before he came across the. This topic is locked from further discussion. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. Rememeber he is a CONCEPT who wields power enough for him to create and destroy 60 billion. He is the closest thing to omnipotent without being omnipotent. A. Yglorba • 3 yr. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. Archived post. Because there is no "pre-retcon" Beyonder in Marvel canon -- that is nothing more than a made-up battleboard term. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. R2: God stomps. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. CsmicRanker1314 1. Phoenix vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder = probably Beyonder unless we are using the level where Phoenix possessed the power to destroy him. Post retcon would be a closer fight. Beyonder Spider-Man vs Naruto, MHA, Bleach, One Piece, Magi, Umineko, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya verses. 0. He. COIE Monitors cited as. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. This is a spite thread then . So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. Text-only Version:. Dude’s absolutely broken. Sep 20, 2018. However, Post-Retcon is going down, hard. Prior to being retconned totally out of power and relevance, the Beyonder was basically the most powerful being in all of Marvel comics, totally. 3 years ago. The only thing the Beyonder wasn’t able to do was truly understand what it was like to not be the Beyonder. For now pre retcon beyonder has the advantage imo. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder is basically picking which company you like more : DC or Marvel. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. u/nullfather can attest to that. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Pre Retcon Beyonder said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea and is considered to be a million times powerful than. Both strike an ambiguous pose when it comes to creating a universe. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. #28 ovy7. 14 years ago. Not to say he's necessarily just a planetary threat now. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. lmao Also classic Marvel supporters. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on into infinity. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. Protege was getting the upper hand on Beyonder rather quicky b4 LT inturrupted their fight, i say Protege ". The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. Thought Robot without any effort. 0. As I said I'm not intimately familiar with pre retcon beyonder or even marvel comics overall. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Beyonder is an Infinitely Geometrically Dimensional Multiverse that is more powerful than a Geometrically Dimensional Multiverse. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. FIRST COSMOS. Cubey. Numidium 2. Beyonder's best feats consist of warping reality on a Multiversal scale in his fight with MM, and being millions of times stronger than anyone in the marvel multiverse, but that's only impressive up to a certain point before it becomes. PRE-RETCON BEYONDER? All of them are BLOODLUSTED! TOAA is the special referee! DB universe characters start at their maximum power and are already at their most powerful form! 14 years ago. Morals are on for Shuma. The Beyonder, a young member of an ancient race known as the Beyonders, was made aware of the Marvel Universe due to an 'accident' orchestrated by the other Beyonders involving Owen Reece. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. 5 years ago. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. The Beyonder asks Molecule Man a question and doesn’t know if he can sacrifice Dave. . 17 Ginriu. Beyonder. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. MM is not as strong as Beyonder but he's above Living Tribunal, abstracts, IG and other such levels of cosmic power. Maybe I have used faulty logic regarding this. Learn the difference between the original, toned-down, and evolved versions of the Beyonder, a cosmic entity that can create and. Followers. #capcut #short #shorts #shortvideo #edit #versusbattle #beyonder #hajunPre-retcon Beyonder is crazy powerful, powerful enough to stomp the LT, but infinitely weak compared to TOAA. Beyonder was a formless mindless white space above the Multiverse, made purely. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. If you can think about beating TOAA, Beyonder can do that. Reply. Even Molecule Man at the height of his powers was almost nothing to Beyonder. Mismatch, this version of Beyonder is TOAA level. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. Fight takes place in current DC universe. @Ziro: Pre-Retcon Beyonder got his powers taken away by Dr. #5. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. . His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Pre recon beyonder is not omnipotent, but nigh-omnipotent as there is only 1 omnipotent character in omniverse and in marvel it is the One Above All not Beyonder. Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. The only thing Pre retcon beyonder has going for him against featherine is that he was described as "god" in the beyonder realm to possibly put him on her level. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL Existence(or, All-Fiction)". This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder/Classic Beyonder-As a result of being the entirety of a dimension of far more scope than our own multiverse, he was more powerful than all of the rest of reality (he was. Which effectively means that they give Beyonder their sunday. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. . Children can be extremely capricious, and a being as powerful as the Beyonder with that attitude can be very dangerous. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. He. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Idk its hard to say because the beyonders who destroyed eternity infinity and all the cosmic entities, it took time for them to do that but the Marquis of Death waved his hand and they all died. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes Or he could just wipe out the entire Fate universe and everything outside itPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Another statement made about. You see, the thing is that Pre Retcon Beyonder is Secret Wars Beyonder, so it’s not completely incorrect in a away, but all these events are taking after the retcon, if you get what I mean. Beyonder is just Metaverse level or Low Metaverse. said: "Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins 10/10. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. 11,582. Followers. Inbetweener. There are other impressive feats to show, but they are all after the retcon. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Team 2 = Fusion mode. Beyonder, when first created, could defeat Galactus, because he was. He'd have as much chance as an ant against omnipotence. . Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. #1 Edited By NinjaWarrior268. With 1 year of prep Doom could probably bridge the gap. Pre Retcon Beyonder = TOAA > Eternity 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube (Because part of the power was in Owen Reece) Recent Retcon Beyonder < the marvel abstracts but not by much. . Some dude told me this guy was strong but i think goku can with with kamehameha. TOAA has complete control over every universe including 616. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Lucifer is above an Infinitely Layered Creation. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. . No prep and no knowledge. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . The One Above All. In no way, shape, or form you can scale to the whole thing. Also the Doomslayer has way more fighting and combat feats.